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		<title>By: aandrews</title>
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		<dc:creator>aandrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...it wouldn’t nearly be as light-hearted and whimsically charming...&quot;

Too, movies may be an art form, but they&#039;re also business.  There&#039;s typically a boat load of money riding on their success.  Too, I think most people see movies as escapism.  Taking those two factors into account, it would probably be considered unwise to risk a substantial amount of borrowed money producing a movie and risk increasing the likelihood that it would be shunned by the movie-going public, if it reflected present-day circumstances in Paris too accurately.  Even if it was attempted, Marxist naysayers would probably grouse about the absence of burning cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;it wouldn’t nearly be as light-hearted and whimsically charming&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Too, movies may be an art form, but they&#8217;re also business.  There&#8217;s typically a boat load of money riding on their success.  Too, I think most people see movies as escapism.  Taking those two factors into account, it would probably be considered unwise to risk a substantial amount of borrowed money producing a movie and risk increasing the likelihood that it would be shunned by the movie-going public, if it reflected present-day circumstances in Paris too accurately.  Even if it was attempted, Marxist naysayers would probably grouse about the absence of burning cars.</p>
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		<title>By: Banksy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Banksy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 01:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then again, if Kaganski had his way, and Amelie featured France&#039;s ethnic minorities, it wouldn&#039;t nearly be as light-hearted and whimsically charming... what with all the car fires and street rape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then again, if Kaganski had his way, and Amelie featured France&#8217;s ethnic minorities, it wouldn&#8217;t nearly be as light-hearted and whimsically charming&#8230; what with all the car fires and street rape.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say I find condemnation of this movie a bit disconcerting. The absence of ethnic minorities from a location usually moderately diverse cannot be necessarily connected to racist politics. Consider first the need to create a backdrop for the heroine (a childlike fantasist). It stands to reason that this backdrop would be markedly different from an &#039;honest&#039; portrait of montmartre. I am not a massive fan of the film by any stretch of the imagination, but I cannot see why people seize on a lack of realistic ethnic diversity in a deliberately UNrealistic setting as an adequate reason to a) dislike the film and b) accuse it of racism. 
Even if it had been set in a banlieue normally populated mostly by what the french indiscriminately term &#039;immigres&#039;, the overriding impression would be of distorted reality. The fact that the lack of ethnic diversity in the film has led people(amongst whom, incidentally, the FN were notable for their absence)to see amelie as a sort of recruiting campaign for Le Pen&#039;s particularly ridiculous brand of racist politics is tenuous at best. 
I would like to question the assertion made above that it is necessary to engage in a racist fantasy to enjoy the film, apparently made on the dubious assumption that Jeunet has made a direct attempt to create an FN fantasy. I am baffled as to how that adds up. Firstly the film is not an all-white utopia. Secondly, the level of representation of minorities in the film, such as it is, simply cannot be taken to be a normative statement. If you believe it can, can you explain how you get to your conclusion? I am not saying that Jeunet absent-mindedly forgot ethnic minorities. In fact, I think he quite probably intended his fantasy montmartre to be so devoid of diversity. But just because it is a feel good film in which there are few beurs and blacks, that does not mean that the absence of beurs and blacks and chinese and gay and lesbian and transsexuals is at the core of its attempt to make you feel good!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say I find condemnation of this movie a bit disconcerting. The absence of ethnic minorities from a location usually moderately diverse cannot be necessarily connected to racist politics. Consider first the need to create a backdrop for the heroine (a childlike fantasist). It stands to reason that this backdrop would be markedly different from an &#8216;honest&#8217; portrait of montmartre. I am not a massive fan of the film by any stretch of the imagination, but I cannot see why people seize on a lack of realistic ethnic diversity in a deliberately UNrealistic setting as an adequate reason to a) dislike the film and b) accuse it of racism.<br />
Even if it had been set in a banlieue normally populated mostly by what the french indiscriminately term &#8216;immigres&#8217;, the overriding impression would be of distorted reality. The fact that the lack of ethnic diversity in the film has led people(amongst whom, incidentally, the FN were notable for their absence)to see amelie as a sort of recruiting campaign for Le Pen&#8217;s particularly ridiculous brand of racist politics is tenuous at best.<br />
I would like to question the assertion made above that it is necessary to engage in a racist fantasy to enjoy the film, apparently made on the dubious assumption that Jeunet has made a direct attempt to create an FN fantasy. I am baffled as to how that adds up. Firstly the film is not an all-white utopia. Secondly, the level of representation of minorities in the film, such as it is, simply cannot be taken to be a normative statement. If you believe it can, can you explain how you get to your conclusion? I am not saying that Jeunet absent-mindedly forgot ethnic minorities. In fact, I think he quite probably intended his fantasy montmartre to be so devoid of diversity. But just because it is a feel good film in which there are few beurs and blacks, that does not mean that the absence of beurs and blacks and chinese and gay and lesbian and transsexuals is at the core of its attempt to make you feel good!</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Dec 2006 09:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>y cant u just enjoy the movie? it isnt consciously racist, jeunet is white and therefore his films will have a white cast as a majority simply because there is no reason why they shouldn&#039;t.  if he worried about PC and satisfying ethnic minorities while shooting it then perhaps the movie wouldn&#039;t have been such a success, which it undoubtedly was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>y cant u just enjoy the movie? it isnt consciously racist, jeunet is white and therefore his films will have a white cast as a majority simply because there is no reason why they shouldn&#8217;t.  if he worried about PC and satisfying ethnic minorities while shooting it then perhaps the movie wouldn&#8217;t have been such a success, which it undoubtedly was.</p>
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		<title>By: m</title>
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		<dc:creator>m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 17:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam: I hope it all makes more sense. I didn&#039;t feel like you were a hard-core defender, though I do know some hard-core defenders. That&#039;s why I just used your last comment as a basic framework, and didn&#039;t pick at anything you said in specific. 

As for calling the movie &quot;fascist,&quot; I am still being a little cheeky. The movie can be used for fascist/racist aims, and it requires a bit of buying into a racist utopia to enjoy, but I would not say that Jeunet is a fascist for making this movie, etc. 

No, I never wrote about &lt;i&gt;Kids&lt;/i&gt;, which was the first movie I ever considered leaving the theater during. This is mostly since I saw it pre-blog. And it still startles me to hear, even today, people refer to that movie with adulation. But it&#039;s the perfect example of this trifecta: popular, terrible politics, awful aesthetics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam: I hope it all makes more sense. I didn&#8217;t feel like you were a hard-core defender, though I do know some hard-core defenders. That&#8217;s why I just used your last comment as a basic framework, and didn&#8217;t pick at anything you said in specific. </p>
<p>As for calling the movie &#8220;fascist,&#8221; I am still being a little cheeky. The movie can be used for fascist/racist aims, and it requires a bit of buying into a racist utopia to enjoy, but I would not say that Jeunet is a fascist for making this movie, etc. </p>
<p>No, I never wrote about <i>Kids</i>, which was the first movie I ever considered leaving the theater during. This is mostly since I saw it pre-blog. And it still startles me to hear, even today, people refer to that movie with adulation. But it&#8217;s the perfect example of this trifecta: popular, terrible politics, awful aesthetics.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>did you ever post about Kids?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>did you ever post about Kids?</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of my favorite posts.  Thank you.  
I didn&#039;t mean to sound overly defensive of the movie.  Despite its being readily available on our cable for months at a time, I haven&#039;t been able to bring myself to rewatch it either, mainly because what I liked about it is less interesting the second time around.  What I did like about it was the quirky nature, especially in the intro of the movie, where meaningless real events without moral context were what shaped the drama (i.e. I liked that the mother was killed by someone else&#039;s suicide attempt).  I was probably remiss in calling this a whimsical take on existentialism, but I figured that if I said I liked it because it kinda reminded me of the assumptions of Real Business Cycle Theory I would sound too pretentious to go on living (as if saying something is a whimsical take on existentialism doesn&#039;t sound terrible already -- gag me). 
I honestly had no idea that you were being literal with your use of the word &#039;fascist&#039; and not tounge in cheek.  Being ignorant of French politics, I did need the step-by-step explanation of what you were saying.  Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of my favorite posts.  Thank you.<br />
I didn&#8217;t mean to sound overly defensive of the movie.  Despite its being readily available on our cable for months at a time, I haven&#8217;t been able to bring myself to rewatch it either, mainly because what I liked about it is less interesting the second time around.  What I did like about it was the quirky nature, especially in the intro of the movie, where meaningless real events without moral context were what shaped the drama (i.e. I liked that the mother was killed by someone else&#8217;s suicide attempt).  I was probably remiss in calling this a whimsical take on existentialism, but I figured that if I said I liked it because it kinda reminded me of the assumptions of Real Business Cycle Theory I would sound too pretentious to go on living (as if saying something is a whimsical take on existentialism doesn&#8217;t sound terrible already &#8212; gag me).<br />
I honestly had no idea that you were being literal with your use of the word &#8216;fascist&#8217; and not tounge in cheek.  Being ignorant of French politics, I did need the step-by-step explanation of what you were saying.  Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: m</title>
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		<dc:creator>m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 06:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose a response to my comment above could be, &quot;well, if all movies have bad politics, then saying you don&#039;t like popular movies that suck and have bad politlcs is equivalent to saying you don&#039;t like popular movies that suck. Hence, you don&#039;t like the movie on solely aesthetic grounds, and, since you&#039;re explicitly not making an aesthetic argument above, and you refuse to see the movie again in order to make an aesthetic argument, your whole point is moot.&quot; My response then is in terms of kind.

I&#039;m rereading that line where Kaganski says that Montmartre is reimagined as a tiny French village with its &quot;fear of modernity, of change, of the movements of the world and the mixing of populations.&quot; Dismissing the movie as &quot;cute,&quot; or liking it because of that plays into precisely the same fear. It&#039;s a move that involves assuming blinders on your head, because you are avoiding some sort of contemporary reality.

The reception to &lt;i&gt;Am&#233;lie&lt;/i&gt; includes willful suspension of political concern---either on behalf of the French viewership that knows that Montmartre is being white-washed or on behalf of the American viewing audience which has, in my experience, responded overly defensively to questions of the politics of the movie. That is to say, in order to like this movie specifically, you &lt;i&gt;must&lt;/i&gt; engage in a racist fantasy of an all-white utopia. There is no &quot;well, maybe there were no qualified racial others for the parts.&quot; This is a direct move on Jeunet&#039;s part to create an FN fantasy. So, in that sense, I&#039;d argue that the politics of this movie, in terms of its reception, are extra reprehensible, and, hence, I&#039;m still making a solely political claim. I&#039;ll let Kaganski and others point out that the fucked up politics &lt;i&gt;then&lt;/i&gt;, in turn, create bad aesthetics, such that it is impossible to find the movie aesthetically pleasing without agreeing to the racist politics---I suspect that if you view the movie critically from a racial perspective, then the flick falls aesthetically flat. I think that&#039;s what happened with me, albeit on gender terms.

Finally, an analogy: I&#039;ve been trying to wonder what a &quot;US version&quot; of this movie would feel like, and I can&#039;t really think of anything that compares. All I can create are weirdly inappropriate scenes, like a movie that takes place in the UIC of 2005 that has only white undergraduates. It would be ridiculous, and anyone watching the movie who knows anything about UIC in 2005 would know that the movie is a willful misrepresentation. To then not wonder what that misrepresentation &lt;i&gt;means&lt;/i&gt;, it seems, is an abdication of critical responsibility on behalf of the viewer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose a response to my comment above could be, &#8220;well, if all movies have bad politics, then saying you don&#8217;t like popular movies that suck and have bad politlcs is equivalent to saying you don&#8217;t like popular movies that suck. Hence, you don&#8217;t like the movie on solely aesthetic grounds, and, since you&#8217;re explicitly not making an aesthetic argument above, and you refuse to see the movie again in order to make an aesthetic argument, your whole point is moot.&#8221; My response then is in terms of kind.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m rereading that line where Kaganski says that Montmartre is reimagined as a tiny French village with its &#8220;fear of modernity, of change, of the movements of the world and the mixing of populations.&#8221; Dismissing the movie as &#8220;cute,&#8221; or liking it because of that plays into precisely the same fear. It&#8217;s a move that involves assuming blinders on your head, because you are avoiding some sort of contemporary reality.</p>
<p>The reception to <i>Am&eacute;lie</i> includes willful suspension of political concern&#8212;either on behalf of the French viewership that knows that Montmartre is being white-washed or on behalf of the American viewing audience which has, in my experience, responded overly defensively to questions of the politics of the movie. That is to say, in order to like this movie specifically, you <i>must</i> engage in a racist fantasy of an all-white utopia. There is no &#8220;well, maybe there were no qualified racial others for the parts.&#8221; This is a direct move on Jeunet&#8217;s part to create an FN fantasy. So, in that sense, I&#8217;d argue that the politics of this movie, in terms of its reception, are extra reprehensible, and, hence, I&#8217;m still making a solely political claim. I&#8217;ll let Kaganski and others point out that the fucked up politics <i>then</i>, in turn, create bad aesthetics, such that it is impossible to find the movie aesthetically pleasing without agreeing to the racist politics&#8212;I suspect that if you view the movie critically from a racial perspective, then the flick falls aesthetically flat. I think that&#8217;s what happened with me, albeit on gender terms.</p>
<p>Finally, an analogy: I&#8217;ve been trying to wonder what a &#8220;US version&#8221; of this movie would feel like, and I can&#8217;t really think of anything that compares. All I can create are weirdly inappropriate scenes, like a movie that takes place in the UIC of 2005 that has only white undergraduates. It would be ridiculous, and anyone watching the movie who knows anything about UIC in 2005 would know that the movie is a willful misrepresentation. To then not wonder what that misrepresentation <i>means</i>, it seems, is an abdication of critical responsibility on behalf of the viewer.</p>
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		<title>By: m</title>
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		<dc:creator>m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 06:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, there is something reactionary about putting your hands over your ears and singing &quot;Mary Had a Little Lamb&quot; instead of investigating and attacking the politics of treasured cultural objects. It&#039;s not just normativising then, but it&#039;s actually counter-productive. I&#039;m finally reading &lt;i&gt;Political Unconscious&lt;/i&gt;, and I love how Jameson sort of just establishes the primacy of historical materialism to any &quot;literary or cultural text.&quot; They are all written in a world of class conflict, hence they &lt;i&gt;must&lt;/i&gt; in some way reflect class conflict. Similarly, this movie here is written in a racialist world, hence it must reflect that in some way. There is no &quot;but it&#039;s just a movie!&quot;

One thing has been bugging me, though. A friend said that she finds the movie as reprehensible politically as a Disney cartoon. That&#039;s, in a way, obviously true. But I actually own &lt;i&gt;Aladdin&lt;/i&gt; but wouldn&#039;t consider buying &lt;i&gt;Am&#233;lie&lt;/i&gt;. What gives? And aren&#039;t I guilty of the same thing I mention above? What is so special about this movie that earns it the scorn I have?

I mean, just about every wide-release movie has some screwy politics in some place, right? I guess I can&#039;t explain why it is this &lt;i&gt;specific&lt;/i&gt; movie without having to make, in addition to the political argument above, an aesthetic argument. And both of these relate to the film&#039;s super-popularity here, especially among people who should &quot;know better,&quot; that class of cultural consumer that pat themselves on the back for being liberal and open-minded. So I guess it&#039;s because of this intersection of these three things that gets me going. And, in fact, if I think about most movies I hate vocally, I can generally say this about them:

&quot;I don&#039;t get why everyone else likes (&lt;i&gt;Kill Bill&lt;/i&gt;&#124;&lt;i&gt;Kids&lt;/i&gt;&#124;&lt;i&gt;Am&#233;lie&lt;/i&gt;). Not only is it a shitty movie, but its politics are reprehensible!&quot;

So it&#039;s a question not just of aesthetics, not just of politics, and not just of popularity, but all three have to hit at once. In that sense, &lt;i&gt;Aladdin&lt;/i&gt; is saved since I find it aesthetically more enjoyable. But it&#039;s also saved since I grant that it has screwy politics. If someone says to me &quot;Arabs are grossly misrepresented,&quot; I say, &quot;yes, I know, and let&#039;s talk about why that is,&quot; not, &quot;stop whining! It&#039;s a kid&#039;s movie, not a PC treatise!&quot; If I could &lt;i&gt;ever&lt;/i&gt; get a similar level of response from &lt;i&gt;Am&#233;lie&lt;/i&gt; die-hards...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, there is something reactionary about putting your hands over your ears and singing &#8220;Mary Had a Little Lamb&#8221; instead of investigating and attacking the politics of treasured cultural objects. It&#8217;s not just normativising then, but it&#8217;s actually counter-productive. I&#8217;m finally reading <i>Political Unconscious</i>, and I love how Jameson sort of just establishes the primacy of historical materialism to any &#8220;literary or cultural text.&#8221; They are all written in a world of class conflict, hence they <i>must</i> in some way reflect class conflict. Similarly, this movie here is written in a racialist world, hence it must reflect that in some way. There is no &#8220;but it&#8217;s just a movie!&#8221;</p>
<p>One thing has been bugging me, though. A friend said that she finds the movie as reprehensible politically as a Disney cartoon. That&#8217;s, in a way, obviously true. But I actually own <i>Aladdin</i> but wouldn&#8217;t consider buying <i>Am&eacute;lie</i>. What gives? And aren&#8217;t I guilty of the same thing I mention above? What is so special about this movie that earns it the scorn I have?</p>
<p>I mean, just about every wide-release movie has some screwy politics in some place, right? I guess I can&#8217;t explain why it is this <i>specific</i> movie without having to make, in addition to the political argument above, an aesthetic argument. And both of these relate to the film&#8217;s super-popularity here, especially among people who should &#8220;know better,&#8221; that class of cultural consumer that pat themselves on the back for being liberal and open-minded. So I guess it&#8217;s because of this intersection of these three things that gets me going. And, in fact, if I think about most movies I hate vocally, I can generally say this about them:</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t get why everyone else likes (<i>Kill Bill</i>|<i>Kids</i>|<i>Am&eacute;lie</i>). Not only is it a shitty movie, but its politics are reprehensible!&#8221;</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s a question not just of aesthetics, not just of politics, and not just of popularity, but all three have to hit at once. In that sense, <i>Aladdin</i> is saved since I find it aesthetically more enjoyable. But it&#8217;s also saved since I grant that it has screwy politics. If someone says to me &#8220;Arabs are grossly misrepresented,&#8221; I say, &#8220;yes, I know, and let&#8217;s talk about why that is,&#8221; not, &#8220;stop whining! It&#8217;s a kid&#8217;s movie, not a PC treatise!&#8221; If I could <i>ever</i> get a similar level of response from <i>Am&eacute;lie</i> die-hards&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely said. One point I might add, too, is that the politics of &quot;I don&#039;t want to think about it, I just want to enjoy it&quot; is in fact very close to the politics of turning the clock back, imagining oneself in Paris in 1890. They&#039;re both invested in the myth of the organic community, where people all understand each other, differences are contained within a common/mutual destiny, and no one is ever anxious about anything.

Paris is an awfully white city, though. Not like in the movie, but first- or second-generation immigrants tend to live in the &lt;i&gt;banlieue&lt;/i&gt;, not in the city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely said. One point I might add, too, is that the politics of &#8220;I don&#8217;t want to think about it, I just want to enjoy it&#8221; is in fact very close to the politics of turning the clock back, imagining oneself in Paris in 1890. They&#8217;re both invested in the myth of the organic community, where people all understand each other, differences are contained within a common/mutual destiny, and no one is ever anxious about anything.</p>
<p>Paris is an awfully white city, though. Not like in the movie, but first- or second-generation immigrants tend to live in the <i>banlieue</i>, not in the city.</p>
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